SYK
TMO
ILMN
DNA
PLFE
AACC

you know something just hit me.  As I recal you are great about getting into stocks before they make their nice swings.. not catching the mid section of the swing but being there for the first bit of it.  I've lately begun using TSV and Bolingerbands to help give me a heads up  as to when it's time to start looking for an entry.  I also use Williams %R just to double check that i'm getting better probabilities at a "value purchase"... though it is basically stochastics and it can "float" high or low.. It seems to help a bit.

The above came right from my favorite scan Which I think you'll recall.  and I've been favoring those with good volume.. But in just looking at some charts of recent swings I wish I'd caught I began to notice that a common element at the bottom is LOW volume... Sort of like a quiet before the storm.  I'm wondering if I should be focusing on the charts with low volume  at the moment where I start looking for an entry.. Obviously you probably want to see a history of good volume in the overall context... but it seems like when the good volume comes it's more of a confirmation than anything.. 

Or i'm getting my head warped by recent market conditions and I need to be looking for the blatently obvious good volume?  What are your volume thoughts reguarding these tight little entries.  I usually try to buy the break above...just incase it breaks down.

What I should probably do is each day for a week or month or so flag all the low volume members of my nightly scan date and store them and check on them in two months ... verses the good volume members that I usually keep.  Normally I look for volume to be atleat above it's 15EMA on the night it comes up in the scan and don't look at the others.  Perhaps this is folly?

Willims %R is basically a really fast stochastics.  To plot it in TC it's
(STOC10 - 100)  and then what ever period you ar using.  I'm using a period of about 4.

The thing is I was considering his service.. in emails and the comodity traing pack but he also has a stock service and course.  Figuring that a guy who has really mae millions trading there are probably some good bits of knowledge in there.  So I called his service expecting to get a secretary.  He answered ... we spoke for a minuite and he suggested that I give his %R a try with abotu a 4-8 period as that would probably best represent the swings I try to capture and his acumulation distribution.  I found that (by way of Bustermu) to be nearly exactly Moneystream so I stick with moneystream.

Anything that you can do with stochastics can be done with %R . . . . It apears to be just faster.  It reads the same to  so divergences happen and when a stock is really running it will "float" above or below the over bought over sold lines.  But since it's so fast it's not as prone to it as Stochastics.  So it's not to say that a stock with a high %R reading cant go higher.. but that would probably fall under a "greater fook theory trade"... you are willing to over pay for the stock becasue you think there will be a bigger fool who will over pay by more.

it's similar to one of his other indicators mentioned in "Long Term Secrets of Short term Trades" where he admits that it gives false signals ...but to filter them out a bit price should be Above a moving average in an up trend for buy signals or down trend for sell signals, or some other filter.. sent the book back so I forget exactly.  The same for down trends.. % R with a high reading and begining to fall helps point oout the ideal entry area for shorts.

Again it's very similar to stochastics... so much so that the easiest way to plot it in TC is to simply subtract 100 from Sto.

Just looking through some charts it seems to generaly point out the areas where when looking at a past trend I think to my self... I wish I'd bought that right about therer... and %R generaly has a low reading.

It's not a holy grail... there is none.  But it could be a help.

Yea there re several.. I know you have given me a few.. I check them and I guess it's unfamiliarity with the whole bond thing that makes me cautious.  There is also an ETF for bonds but it seems to move unaccording to the bond tracking things you gave me.. then Which time frame ? ?   I don't think he ever mentions a specific bond index in his books.. he just says "bonds"... so if you don't know much about bonds then go figure which one.

In a past post you were saying that a person needs to be careful with trading stocks based on Bond movement any way.  So  in my unfamiliarity with it and your cautious I have been watching it a bit but haven't implemented truely.

I'm still trading the Joint signal thing.  Obviously during this current down leg it's not performing as well.  The thig was during the previous decline it kept me with a nice supply of long entries that generaly worked out.. No so this time.  So I've learned that it's not  Down trend impervious...... Just wish it didn't cost me the last several months gains.  I underestimated the magnitude of the decline and bought on the way down... got allot of stop outs.  My average droped from 67% to 57% ,  had 8 in a row bad trades.  The utility stuff all worked out.  but others were all whipsaws.. and ranging between $300 and $600 per loss.    That was unnerving.  but the good news is I'm still here (maybee it's not good news) still kicking and still planing on trading.  AND I know that if it can go this easy  it can come to.  I put 30% on my account my first trading year for god's sake.. and I don't think I knew anything then that I don't know now.  A friendlier market will help... till then there is work and practice ahead.  Averaging a $200 a day loss since the mid October was not fun  The absolute best was the two days I lost more than $1K AFTER having been up in the morning.. went to the library and came home to a solid red screen.

I just didn't think that it would be that sudden... but then I gues it was building.  I nearly completely sidestepped the last decline.. ... then steped into traffic.  As discouraging as it was .. I'm not stopping.   I now that at least in a trending market my aproach produces good stuff.  Last night my final selection was 
VTR
ZEUS
IBKR
SRCL
NYX - Calls for Jan ATM exp.
TMO

Becasue Ienter above price Zeus would never have triggered.  I Slept till 10:00 this morning after staying up till 3:00 Am two nights in a row fiddling with Backscanner and didn't submit any orders.  But it's confirmation that as far as long strategies go i'm on the right track.

There for a bit I was begining to think all this money management talk was nonesense ... the first step is to develope an aproach that dosen't lead to a majority of stop outs.

It's really  tough to find that "edge" system, especially with out needing to constantly fret over the direction of the market.  Something that is more systematic and less subjective.... I find anyway.  Most of the reports I get from ideas I have from Backscan leave allot to be desired.

I have faith in the Joint signal thing becasue I've seen it work and it's based in logical concepts.  I'm still mixed on particular "patterns" and their affectiveness.  It would seem that certain patterns do well on certain stocks.. To run say "Engulfing black after a 5 day up swing while price is under 'X' moving average".... produces usualy negative results to results something like +5% when run over an index's component list. But a smaller list compiled... by some unknown criteria it produces quite well.  So I begin to wonder if perhaps it's a scase fo certain patterns will perform better on stocks that have a history or responding well to that pattern?

But then that dosen't make sense.. everytime I get a new candidate in a tradeable list I'd need to run the tests on which signals it responds best to?  I think i's more a show of specific patterns are highly unreliable over the broader market.  When  aplied to a narrower range of stocks you may get lucky and get a better grouping that will respond to that signal..... or you may not.

What do you think Diceman?

A brief review of these:

SYK  2%, may be more to go
TMO  Near perfect chart, may be very good
ILMN  10% so far
DNA  Nicely shaping up
PLFE Consolidating, still looks like potential
AACC  Ditto