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signaltap
Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2008 4:13:19 PM
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signaltap
Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2008 4:14:19 PM
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11,439 = 200 EMA Weekly is pulling like a magnet now!
signaltap
Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2008 4:14:57 PM
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signaltap
Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2008 4:15:43 PM
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.... and these are the intra-day charts as of the end of the day (jan 8th)
funnymony
Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2008 4:38:41 PM

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its a diamond on the daily. price target @11,500. time for some dog plays. its a bear.
funnymony
Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2008 4:54:37 PM

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50% retracement of 2003 bull.
scottnlena
Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2008 5:04:54 PM

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wow.. it's really here. Well here we go 
realitycheck
Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2008 5:49:20 PM
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QUOTE (funnymony)
its a diamond on the daily. price target @11,500. time for some dog plays. its a bear.


On a line chart ... it's a H&S with a slightly downward sloping neckline ... (the most reliable pattern) with a theoretical resolution of ~11,400 ... i.e. 14200-12800 = 1400 .... 12800-1400=11,400 ....

funnymony
Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2008 6:05:18 PM

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actually, its both.
Ralph Koozer
Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2008 8:36:59 PM

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Good presentation.  The futures on the Dow fonight are also quite negative -227 was what I saw on bloomberg.  

Yes, the pattern looks definately bearish.  The classic dow jones theory also says we're in a bear market.  Trailing sell stops on most of our longs sent us to the sidelines from our longs in the first week of June 07.  The strategy for our trailing sell stops was the "may and go away" as triggered by negative MACD on the DJ.    

Now, I'm patienly waiting for the bear to go back into hibernation before I come back heavily into long equity positions.  With what I see developing, it may be some time.  To me this looks lilke a bigger bear than 2000.   To me this looks like the end of the Bull market we have been in since the Reagan bull market that was initiated by the tax cuts, ending of most ot the passive tax shelters and the implamentation of the IRA-401K system.  It's time to batten down the hatches.     

I'm defensive, but I don't sell shorts by personal policy.  I do buy puts though.  
survivor
Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2008 8:53:47 PM

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QUOTE (Ralph Koozer)
  To me this looks like the end of the Bull market we have been in since the Reagan bull market  


You may be right about this.  If you run a trend line on the DJ-30 forward you will find that it lies around 12550 today, only 40 points or so below today's close.  Kind of scarry isn't it?
signaltap
Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2008 6:18:21 AM
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tobydad
Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2008 8:01:52 AM

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When I first was learning to downhill ski, I tried avoiding moguls. I thought them terrible obstacles to be avoided.  

One day, lying on my back and head pointed down hill, one ski twisting my left leg into some awkward rake and the right ski, well, who knew where the right ski was?  But, there I was, when some smart aleck(sp?) bounced past me saying, "Don't be mean to moguls, moguls are our friends."  

At first, I considered various forms of death to inflict on this person (if I could have caught him) but, then, I realized what a wondrous revelation he had offered me.  

Now I understand the steeper the slope, the more the moguls are my pathway down the mountain.  And learning to spot, judge and negotiate the moguls provided more and more good air on the way down.  

We're now on the downhill slope, for those out there without margin accounts (as I was for some years getting started), there are still very effective ways to go long (although in a very short term fashion) the market and be quite profitable.  Study the little hops that you'll see in the descent of stocks.  Remember gravity works in the stock market, that is, it's much easier to go down than to go up.  Nonetheless, there are little retracements upward that downward descending stocks take.  Learn to spot and capitalize on these, take profits more quickly than in bull markets and get back out.  

In short, don't panic.  You'll be fine. 
signaltap
Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2008 10:24:55 AM
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dj30 is getting nervous and volatility is increasing, because all traders know this is "the end of the road" for the bull!
signaltap
Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2008 12:46:10 PM
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its gonna be a "long afternoon" for bulls today!!!
signaltap
Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2008 1:18:00 PM
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the calm before the storm
realitycheck
Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2008 2:07:31 PM
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What was that Jackie Gelason used to say ?

And AWAAAAAAAAYYYY we go ...

signaltap
Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2008 2:24:39 PM
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wow!! stoch's daily are way oversold!!! (only 5) pop comin' soon?
signaltap
Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2008 2:41:39 PM
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12,594 to fly!
signaltap
Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2008 2:49:00 PM
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short term rally in place
signaltap
Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2008 2:58:00 PM
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nope!
signaltap
Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2008 3:07:36 PM
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small pullback and ups ups and away!
signaltap
Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2008 3:38:12 PM
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huge uptick seen now!
signaltap
Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:34:14 PM
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magnificent confirmation of yest.'s price! more umph expected!
realitycheck
Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:13:30 PM
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QUOTE (signaltap2)
magnificent confirmation of yest.'s price! more umph expected!


How much more umph are you expecting ?

signaltap
Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:45:09 PM
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until 13,200 area, look where all ema lines are located now

realitycheck
Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:14:25 PM
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That could happen I suppose ...

I just wouldn't expect it to have that much momentum ...

If I had to guess ... and we all know what a hazzard that can be ...

We found some resistance today around the 10 ema/daily ... I would expect some follow-through with diminished momentum .... for maybe a couple of days ... closing above the 10 ema/daily .... but topping out in the 13,000-13,100 area ...

And then a reversal day ... and then a break ...

But ... only time will tell ....

signaltap
Posted : Friday, January 11, 2008 6:55:17 AM
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Posted : Friday, January 11, 2008 8:20:41 AM
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Gartman said earlier in the week that there would be a short oversold rally.  He said he would use that as an opportunity to load up on SDS and the short side.   Gartman is somebody Wall Street listens to with about as much respect as they have for Buffett.  Interesting.....
signaltap
Posted : Friday, January 11, 2008 10:18:38 AM
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realitycheck
Posted : Friday, January 11, 2008 11:40:15 AM
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Seems to me that we're just building out an "upward sloping consolidation in a downtrend" ...

That will pull the stochs up off the bottom ... and give us more room to the down side ...

It's early yet ... but remember ... it's personal to the bulls ... they'll throw every last dime at it ...

signaltap
Posted : Friday, January 11, 2008 1:16:42 PM
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open the flood gate!   let it drain out!
realitycheck
Posted : Friday, January 11, 2008 1:19:23 PM
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I must say ... that this thing is weaker than even most H&Ss that I watched build out ....

signaltap
Posted : Friday, January 11, 2008 1:23:27 PM
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we'd be nice to see a 500 pt sinker today!
realitycheck
Posted : Friday, January 11, 2008 1:24:36 PM
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The H&S that built out in the Dow in '61-'62 was quite nice ...



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Posted : Friday, January 11, 2008 2:13:35 PM
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Posted : Friday, January 11, 2008 2:48:14 PM
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institutions will start dumping (selling) stocks at 3pm today!!

realitycheck
Posted : Friday, January 11, 2008 2:55:48 PM
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QUOTE (signaltap2)

institutions will start dumping (selling) stocks at 3pm today!!



But ... what we really need to see ... is enough mutual fund redemptions that the managers are FORCED to sell to raise cash ...

This weekend ... people will start noticing that they are break-even ... or negative ... for the whole last year ...

signaltap
Posted : Friday, January 11, 2008 3:11:23 PM
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selling programs just kicked in ! what a downtick!
signaltap
Posted : Friday, January 11, 2008 3:12:52 PM
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12,502 is coming fast!
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