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jboogz2000
Posted : Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:12:01 PM
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I would like to create a price percentage oscillator for telechart aka ppo indicator it is much like the macd i need the following formats 1,72,18, 1,160,18 and 1,40,18 it is setup like the macd 12,26,9. If you have the formula that would be great.
Craig_S
Posted : Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:13:00 PM


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How is the indicator calculated?  What do your parameters mean?  Can you elaborate?

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jboogz2000
Posted : Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:24:27 PM
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Introduction

The Price Oscillator is an indicator based on the difference between two

averages

of time periods can vary depending on user preference. For daily data, longer moving

averages might be preferred to filter out some of the randomness associated with

daily prices. For weekly data, which will have already filtered out some of the

randomness, shorter moving averages may be deemed more appropriate. In addition,

a moving average of the ensuing plot can be overlaid to act as a trigger line, much

like is done with MACD. In our charts and commentary, we will use the abbreviation

moving, and is expressed as either a percentage or in absolute terms. The number

PPO

to refer to the Percentage Price Oscillator and APO to refer to the Absolute Price
jboogz2000
Posted : Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:25:56 PM
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Percentage Price Oscillator (PPO)

The Percentage Price Oscillator is found by subtracting the longer moving average

from the shorter moving average and then dividing the result by the longer moving

average. For exa

This formula displays the difference between the two moving averages as a

percentage of the longer moving average

{(10-period EMA minus 30-period EMA) divided by the 30-period EMA}

jboogz2000
Posted : Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:33:58 PM
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I read this info and pasted it i think i may have found a previous topic on this thanks

diceman
Posted : Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:37:58 PM
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"1,72,18, 1,160,18 and 1,40,18"
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Try:
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1,72,18
 
(C-XAVGC72)/XAVGC18
 
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1,160,18
 
(C-XAVGC160)/XAVGC18
 
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1,40,18
 
(C-XAVGC40)/XAVGC18
 
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Realize that your symbols will need sufficient
data.
 
Create a custom indicator and select
"center zero line"
 
You may be interested in this:
 
 
 
Thanks
diceman
 
 
 
bustermu
Posted : Friday, March 14, 2008 7:08:19 AM
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QUOTE (diceman)

1,72,18 
(C-XAVGC72)/XAVGC18
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1,160,18 
(C-XAVGC160)/XAVGC18 
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1,40,18 
(C-XAVGC40)/XAVGC18 
------------------------------------------


diceman,

Should not the above read:
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1,72,18 
100*(C-XAVGC72)/XAVGC72
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1,160,18 
100*(C-XAVGC160)/XAVGC160 
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1,40,18 
100*(C-XAVGC40)/XAVGC40 
------------------------------------------
The Signal Line is obtained by placing an Exponential Moving Average of Period 18 on each Custom Indicator using one of the above Indicator Formulas.  Check "Center Zero Line".  Place an invisible TSV Indicator in the Window to draw the zero line.

Thanks,

Jim Murphy
diceman
Posted : Friday, March 14, 2008 8:19:16 AM
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bustermu
 
Your explanation does not match the 10/30
description.
 
I believe the idea is to create a percentage based
type  of MACD. So that "relative" sorts can be
done that are not impacted by price levels.
 
 
Thanks
diceman
bustermu
Posted : Friday, March 14, 2008 8:45:39 AM
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QUOTE (diceman)
Your explanation does not match the 10/30 description.


diceman,

Thanks for your response.

This is the "10/30" description from above:

{(10-period EMA minus 30-period EMA) divided by the 30-period EMA}

A PCF for this is:

(XAVGC10-XAVGC30)/XAVGC30

I multiplied by 100 to make it a percent.  The third EMA is put on this quantity.

I have not been able to find any references to replacing the second EMA in the denominator by the third EMA.  Have you?

Thanks,
Jim Murphy

Bruce_L
Posted : Friday, March 14, 2008 8:48:46 AM


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diceman,
The description provided by jboogz2000 does not mention the third parameter that I see, but the solution for how this parameter is used as provided by bustermu certainly makes sense if this is supposed to be similar to a MACD. The third parameter is used just like the third parameter of MACD (as a Moving Average Trigger Line for the raw PPO).

In addition, it does seem that bustermu's use of the first two PPO parameters is consistent with the what is shown for PPO 10,30 in the description. PPO 10,30 is described as:

{(10-period EMA minus 30-period EMA) divided by the 30-period EMA}

Which would become the following Personal Criteria Formula:

(XAVGC10 - XAVGC30) / XAVGC30

When this is expressed a a Percentage, the resulting formula would be:

100 * (XAVGC10 - XAVGC30) / XAVGC30

Using the third parameter as the denominator instead of the second (or long parameter) as the denominator would seem to be inconsistent with the description. I could always be wrong, but it makes more sense to me that it would be used as a Moving Average Trigger Line as would be done with MACD. You may wish to review the following:

Understanding MACD
PPO

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Personal Criteria Formulas
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diceman
Posted : Friday, March 14, 2008 9:36:47 AM
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I may be confused here.
 
I thought bustermu was talking about placing
a signal line on the difference.
 
He is probably talking about placing a
signal line on the complete equation.
(after adjustment for percent)
 
 
 
Thanks
diceman
bustermu
Posted : Friday, March 14, 2008 9:55:06 AM
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QUOTE (diceman)
I thought bustermu was talking about placing a signal line on the difference.  He is probably talking about placing a signal line on the complete equation. (after adjustment for percent)

diceman,

QUOTE (bustermu)
The Signal Line is obtained by placing an Exponential Moving Average of Period 18 on each Custom Indicator using one of the above Indicator Formulas.

Thanks,
Jim Murphy
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