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Chuck47

Posted : Monday, November 26, 2012 1:58:31 PM

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I use selected values of Wilder's 2 period RSI for swing trading entry and exists. Can you share a pcf formula that calculates the next bar price needed to achieve a selected RSI value using Wilder's 2 period RSI? Thank you.

Bruce_L

Posted : Monday, November 26, 2012 4:37:04 PM

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I think we can probably do something similar to what we did in the RSI Solver? topic. That said, I would actually need the target RSI to create the Indicator Formula because TC2000's Personal Criteria Formula Language does not have user inputs like RealCode.

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Chuck47

Posted : Monday, November 26, 2012 6:26:17 PM

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Can we try an RSI value of 70?

Bruce_L

Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 9:55:32 AM

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Please try the following Indicator Formula for the price during the next bar for the next bar's 2-Period Wilder's RSI to be 70:

ABS(50 * (C - XAVGC3.1) / 2 / (.500030519440884 * (ABS(C - C1) + .5 * (ABS(C1 - C2) + .5 * (ABS(C2 - C3) + .5 * (ABS(C3 - C4) + .5 * (ABS(C4 - C5) + .5 * (ABS(C5 - C6) + .5 * (ABS(C6 - C7) + .5 * (ABS(C7 - C8) + .5 * (ABS(C8 - C9) + .5 * (ABS(C9 - C10) + .5 * (ABS(C10 - C11) + .5 * (ABS(C11 - C12) + .5 * (ABS(C12 - C13) + .5 * (ABS(C13 - C14)))))))))))))))) + 50 < 70) * (C + 1.1667378786954 * (ABS(C - C1) + .5 * (ABS(C1 - C2) + .5 * (ABS(C2 - C3) + .5 * (ABS(C3 - C4) + .5 * (ABS(C4 - C5) + .5 * (ABS(C5 - C6) + .5 * (ABS(C6 - C7) + .5 * (ABS(C7 - C8) + .5 * (ABS(C8 - C9) + .5 * (ABS(C9 - C10) + .5 * (ABS(C10 - C11) + .5 * (ABS(C11 - C12) + .5 * (ABS(C12 - C13) + .5 * (ABS(C13 - C14))))))))))))))) - 1.66676839813628 * ((C > C1) * (C1 - C) + .5 * ((C1 > C2) * (C2 - C1) + .5 * ((C2 > C3) * (C3 - C2) + .5 * ((C3 > C4) * (C4 - C3) + .5 * ((C4 > C5) * (C5 - C4) + .5 * ((C5 > C6) * (C6 - C5) + .5 * ((C6 > C7) * (C7 - C6) + .5 * ((C7 > C8) * (C8 - C7) + .5 * ((C8 > C9) * (C9 - C8) + .5 * ((C9 > C10) * (C10 - C9) + .5 * ((C10 > C11) * (C11 - C10) + .5 * ((C11 > C12) * (C12 - C11) + .5 * ((C12 > C13) * (C13 - C12) + .5 * ((C13 > C14) * (C14 - C13)))))))))))))))) + ABS(50 * (C - XAVGC3.1) / 2 / (.500030519440884 * (ABS(C - C1) + .5 * (ABS(C1 - C2) + .5 * (ABS(C2 - C3) + .5 * (ABS(C3 - C4) + .5 * (ABS(C4 - C5) + .5 * (ABS(C5 - C6) + .5 * (ABS(C6 - C7) + .5 * (ABS(C7 - C8) + .5 * (ABS(C8 - C9) + .5 * (ABS(C9 - C10) + .5 * (ABS(C10 - C11) + .5 * (ABS(C11 - C12) + .5 * (ABS(C12 - C13) + .5 * (ABS(C13 - C14)))))))))))))))) + 50 > 70) * (C - .714329313486977 * ((C > C1) * (C1 - C) + .5 * ((C1 > C2) * (C2 - C1) + .5 * ((C2 > C3) * (C3 - C2) + .5 * ((C3 > C4) * (C4 - C3) + .5 * ((C4 > C5) * (C5 - C4) + .5 * ((C5 > C6) * (C6 - C5) + .5 * ((C6 > C7) * (C7 - C6) + .5 * ((C7 > C8) * (C8 - C7) + .5 * ((C8 > C9) * (C9 - C8) + .5 * ((C9 > C10) * (C10 - C9) + .5 * ((C10 > C11) * (C11 - C10) + .5 * ((C11 > C12) * (C12 - C11) + .5 * ((C12 > C13) * (C13 - C12) + .5 * ((C13 > C14) * (C14 - C13))))))))))))))) + .500030519440884 * (ABS(C - C1) + .5 * (ABS(C1 - C2) + .5 * (ABS(C2 - C3) + .5 * (ABS(C3 - C4) + .5 * (ABS(C4 - C5) + .5 * (ABS(C5 - C6) + .5 * (ABS(C6 - C7) + .5 * (ABS(C7 - C8) + .5 * (ABS(C8 - C9) + .5 * (ABS(C9 - C10) + .5 * (ABS(C10 - C11) + .5 * (ABS(C11 - C12) + .5 * (ABS(C12 - C13) + .5 * (ABS(C13 - C14))))))))))))))))

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Chuck47

Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:50:59 AM

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Wow! Thank you! May I ask for 2 more formulations, one at RSI 30 and one at RSI 50. Thanks.

Bruce_L

Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:30:45 AM

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Please try the following Indicator Formula for the price for the next bar for the next bar's 2-Period Wilder's RSI to be 30:

ABS(50 * (C - XAVGC3.1) / 2 / (.500030519440884 * (ABS(C - C1) + .5 * (ABS(C1 - C2) + .5 * (ABS(C2 - C3) + .5 * (ABS(C3 - C4) + .5 * (ABS(C4 - C5) + .5 * (ABS(C5 - C6) + .5 * (ABS(C6 - C7) + .5 * (ABS(C7 - C8) + .5 * (ABS(C8 - C9) + .5 * (ABS(C9 - C10) + .5 * (ABS(C10 - C11) + .5 * (ABS(C11 - C12) + .5 * (ABS(C12 - C13) + .5 * (ABS(C13 - C14)))))))))))))))) + 50 < 30) * (C + .214298794046093 * (ABS(C - C1) + .5 * (ABS(C1 - C2) + .5 * (ABS(C2 - C3) + .5 * (ABS(C3 - C4) + .5 * (ABS(C4 - C5) + .5 * (ABS(C5 - C6) + .5 * (ABS(C6 - C7) + .5 * (ABS(C7 - C8) + .5 * (ABS(C8 - C9) + .5 * (ABS(C9 - C10) + .5 * (ABS(C10 - C11) + .5 * (ABS(C11 - C12) + .5 * (ABS(C12 - C13) + .5 * (ABS(C13 - C14))))))))))))))) - .714329313486977 * ((C > C1) * (C1 - C) + .5 * ((C1 > C2) * (C2 - C1) + .5 * ((C2 > C3) * (C3 - C2) + .5 * ((C3 > C4) * (C4 - C3) + .5 * ((C4 > C5) * (C5 - C4) + .5 * ((C5 > C6) * (C6 - C5) + .5 * ((C6 > C7) * (C7 - C6) + .5 * ((C7 > C8) * (C8 - C7) + .5 * ((C8 > C9) * (C9 - C8) + .5 * ((C9 > C10) * (C10 - C9) + .5 * ((C10 > C11) * (C11 - C10) + .5 * ((C11 > C12) * (C12 - C11) + .5 * ((C12 > C13) * (C13 - C12) + .5 * ((C13 > C14) * (C14 - C13)))))))))))))))) + ABS(50 * (C - XAVGC3.1) / 2 / (.500030519440884 * (ABS(C - C1) + .5 * (ABS(C1 - C2) + .5 * (ABS(C2 - C3) + .5 * (ABS(C3 - C4) + .5 * (ABS(C4 - C5) + .5 * (ABS(C5 - C6) + .5 * (ABS(C6 - C7) + .5 * (ABS(C7 - C8) + .5 * (ABS(C8 - C9) + .5 * (ABS(C9 - C10) + .5 * (ABS(C10 - C11) + .5 * (ABS(C11 - C12) + .5 * (ABS(C12 - C13) + .5 * (ABS(C13 - C14)))))))))))))))) + 50 > 30) * (C - 1.66676839813628 * ((C > C1) * (C1 - C) + .5 * ((C1 > C2) * (C2 - C1) + .5 * ((C2 > C3) * (C3 - C2) + .5 * ((C3 > C4) * (C4 - C3) + .5 * ((C4 > C5) * (C5 - C4) + .5 * ((C5 > C6) * (C6 - C5) + .5 * ((C6 > C7) * (C7 - C6) + .5 * ((C7 > C8) * (C8 - C7) + .5 * ((C8 > C9) * (C9 - C8) + .5 * ((C9 > C10) * (C10 - C9) + .5 * ((C10 > C11) * (C11 - C10) + .5 * ((C11 > C12) * (C12 - C11) + .5 * ((C12 > C13) * (C13 - C12) + .5 * ((C13 > C14) * (C14 - C13))))))))))))))) + .500030519440884 * (ABS(C - C1) + .5 * (ABS(C1 - C2) + .5 * (ABS(C2 - C3) + .5 * (ABS(C3 - C4) + .5 * (ABS(C4 - C5) + .5 * (ABS(C5 - C6) + .5 * (ABS(C6 - C7) + .5 * (ABS(C7 - C8) + .5 * (ABS(C8 - C9) + .5 * (ABS(C9 - C10) + .5 * (ABS(C10 - C11) + .5 * (ABS(C11 - C12) + .5 * (ABS(C12 - C13) + .5 * (ABS(C13 - C14))))))))))))))))

Please try the following Indicator Formula for the price for the next bar for the next bar's 2-Period Wilder's RSI to be 50:

ABS(50 * (C - XAVGC3.1) / 2 / (.500030519440884 * (ABS(C - C1) + .5 * (ABS(C1 - C2) + .5 * (ABS(C2 - C3) + .5 * (ABS(C3 - C4) + .5 * (ABS(C4 - C5) + .5 * (ABS(C5 - C6) + .5 * (ABS(C6 - C7) + .5 * (ABS(C7 - C8) + .5 * (ABS(C8 - C9) + .5 * (ABS(C9 - C10) + .5 * (ABS(C10 - C11) + .5 * (ABS(C11 - C12) + .5 * (ABS(C12 - C13) + .5 * (ABS(C13 - C14)))))))))))))))) + 50 < 50) * (C + .500030519440884 * (ABS(C - C1) + .5 * (ABS(C1 - C2) + .5 * (ABS(C2 - C3) + .5 * (ABS(C3 - C4) + .5 * (ABS(C4 - C5) + .5 * (ABS(C5 - C6) + .5 * (ABS(C6 - C7) + .5 * (ABS(C7 - C8) + .5 * (ABS(C8 - C9) + .5 * (ABS(C9 - C10) + .5 * (ABS(C10 - C11) + .5 * (ABS(C11 - C12) + .5 * (ABS(C12 - C13) + .5 * (ABS(C13 - C14))))))))))))))) - 1.00006103888177 * ((C > C1) * (C1 - C) + .5 * ((C1 > C2) * (C2 - C1) + .5 * ((C2 > C3) * (C3 - C2) + .5 * ((C3 > C4) * (C4 - C3) + .5 * ((C4 > C5) * (C5 - C4) + .5 * ((C5 > C6) * (C6 - C5) + .5 * ((C6 > C7) * (C7 - C6) + .5 * ((C7 > C8) * (C8 - C7) + .5 * ((C8 > C9) * (C9 - C8) + .5 * ((C9 > C10) * (C10 - C9) + .5 * ((C10 > C11) * (C11 - C10) + .5 * ((C11 > C12) * (C12 - C11) + .5 * ((C12 > C13) * (C13 - C12) + .5 * ((C13 > C14) * (C14 - C13)))))))))))))))) + ABS(50 * (C - XAVGC3.1) / 2 / (.500030519440884 * (ABS(C - C1) + .5 * (ABS(C1 - C2) + .5 * (ABS(C2 - C3) + .5 * (ABS(C3 - C4) + .5 * (ABS(C4 - C5) + .5 * (ABS(C5 - C6) + .5 * (ABS(C6 - C7) + .5 * (ABS(C7 - C8) + .5 * (ABS(C8 - C9) + .5 * (ABS(C9 - C10) + .5 * (ABS(C10 - C11) + .5 * (ABS(C11 - C12) + .5 * (ABS(C12 - C13) + .5 * (ABS(C13 - C14)))))))))))))))) + 50 > 50) * (C - 1.00006103888177 * ((C > C1) * (C1 - C) + .5 * ((C1 > C2) * (C2 - C1) + .5 * ((C2 > C3) * (C3 - C2) + .5 * ((C3 > C4) * (C4 - C3) + .5 * ((C4 > C5) * (C5 - C4) + .5 * ((C5 > C6) * (C6 - C5) + .5 * ((C6 > C7) * (C7 - C6) + .5 * ((C7 > C8) * (C8 - C7) + .5 * ((C8 > C9) * (C9 - C8) + .5 * ((C9 > C10) * (C10 - C9) + .5 * ((C10 > C11) * (C11 - C10) + .5 * ((C11 > C12) * (C12 - C11) + .5 * ((C12 > C13) * (C13 - C12) + .5 * ((C13 > C14) * (C14 - C13))))))))))))))) + .500030519440884 * (ABS(C - C1) + .5 * (ABS(C1 - C2) + .5 * (ABS(C2 - C3) + .5 * (ABS(C3 - C4) + .5 * (ABS(C4 - C5) + .5 * (ABS(C5 - C6) + .5 * (ABS(C6 - C7) + .5 * (ABS(C7 - C8) + .5 * (ABS(C8 - C9) + .5 * (ABS(C9 - C10) + .5 * (ABS(C10 - C11) + .5 * (ABS(C11 - C12) + .5 * (ABS(C12 - C13) + .5 * (ABS(C13 - C14))))))))))))))))

-Bruce
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Chuck47

Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:53:17 AM

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Bruce, thank you, I am truly appreciative of your work!

BobMc

Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 12:23:11 PM

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Bruce,

I was looking at the formulas to see how to adjust them to other values and I have a question regarding the last formula you gave - for the RSI to be 50.

Shouldn't the <30 on the third line be 50 instead and the >30 on the 12th line be 50 also?

Regards

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Bruce_L

Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 12:41:50 PM

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Yes, they should. I will adjust them in the original post. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

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Chuck47

Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:46:43 PM

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Bruce,

Can you please post the formula to determine the next bar price for the value of the 8 period Wilder's RSI to be at 50.

Thank you!

Chuck

Bruce_L

Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:39:33 PM

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The resulting formula is too long and slow to be practical or post in the forums.

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Chuck47

Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:31:16 PM

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Thanks, appreciate you taking a look at it.

Chuck

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Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:32:27 PM

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You're welcome.

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