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Rather than post multiple times for these related questions, here are several questions, all more or less similar:
1. Where do I find a comparison of the various similar products you offer?
I.e. In Houston I saw a demo of "Blocks Player".
The web site seems to call this "Sanpsheets".
Are these the same or two products, or what?
Where is this detailed?
2. Are there different TC200? products?
If so, where do I see the differences described,
preferably in a comparison table.
I.e. TC help describes a Fibonacci tool. The
only "drawing tool I have is "draw trendline".
Where are these differences explained?
Confused.
PS, my impression of Worden tools so far is:
TC200? is a piece of crap
frequent crashes
lack of configuration
lack of variables in UDFs
lack of names for UDFs
lack of flexible functions
(can't use expressions as arguments
to built-in functions, etc)
Blocks: Blocks certainly offer real promise,
but at this point its just a resource hog,
that is unable to work in a one-year old PC
without eating so much resources, that I
can't even run the Blocks Videos at the same
time, that blocks player is loaded.
I admit, that I got suckered in at the
Houston demo. At least enough, that I did
NOT demand my money back for the TC1987
subscription, as I had planned.
Instead I paid MORE money for the fundamental
data. Seemingly a dream cone true.
So far just a nightmare though. I'm sure
Y'all are aware of the problems with this
software, but I'll list my major complaints
just in case:
1. No documentation for the individual blocks
already built-in. So how isone to know
what one can do with a give block?
2. Incredible waste of resources. I don't
know how much of this is dot-net, and
how much is YOUR fault, but the bottom
line is, that the program will not share
the resources of my one-year-old desktop.
3. Will not work properly, UNLESS its online.
I asked about this in Houston, and was
told it WOULD work offline.
4. Blocks tries to reinvent the ONE THING,
that Microsoft got right in Windows,
its GUI interface.
For example, the one thing all but the
most rudimentary windows have in common
are the Close, Minimize, Maximize/restore
buttons.
Blocks replaces thes buttons with a pull-
down menu?!
Are you using APPLE programmers to write
these blocks?!
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Registered User
Joined: 10/18/2005
Posts: 49
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Just to clarify the seeming contradiction between my "Joined" date and claim, that I just subscribed:
Worden keeps a dossier on anyone, who tried their product and cancelles again.
I had cancelled my subscription about a week after I subscribed in 2005.
About a month ago I subscribed again (only to find, that the program had changed little in two years).
Abair -- Newbie, but already EXPERT at crashing TC2007.
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Worden Trainer
Joined: 10/1/2004
Posts: 18,819
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QUOTE1. Where do I find a comparison of the various similar products you offer?
I.e. In Houston I saw a demo of "Blocks Player".
The web site seems to call this "Sanpsheets".
SnapSheets is the old name of the Blocks Player.
For information on The Block Player, please check out the Blocks Player Web Site
For information on the Modular Tools by Worden for the Blocks Player, check out the Web Site
You can click on Software and Pricing at the top of this page for a list of features related to TeleChart.
QUOTE2. Are there different TC200? products?
If so, where do I see the differences described,
preferably in a comparison table.
Check out the links given above.
QUOTEI.e. TC help describes a Fibonacci tool. The
only "drawing tool I have is "draw trendline".
Check out this video: Fibonacci Retracement Levels
QUOTETC200? is a piece of crap
frequent crashes
lack of configuration
lack of variables in UDFs
lack of names for UDFs
lack of flexible functions
(can't use expressions as arguments
to built-in functions, etc)
TeleChart is very stable. You should contact the tech team so they can look over your system and diagnose why you are having issues.
Technical Support is available via telephone, live chat and email. Their hours are 9AM - 9PM EST through the week, and 9AM - 3PM Saturday. support@worden.com or 919.408.0542. Support is also available via live chat. You can go to the Live Tech Support Chat during business hours for live interactive chat with one of the Tech Support Agents.
QUOTEBlocks: Blocks certainly offer real promise,
but at this point its just a resource hog,
that is unable to work in a one-year old PC
without eating so much resources, that I
can't even run the Blocks Videos at the same
time, that blocks player is loaded.
I have a year old laptop with 2gigs of RAM and it runs great. Blocks is very demanding of the computer but this is a result of the limitless power of the program. Not all machines can run Blocks.
QUOTEI admit, that I got suckered in at the
Houston demo. At least enough, that I did
NOT demand my money back for the TC1987
subscription, as I had planned.
It was not my intention to "sucker" you at the class. I regret that you think I did.
QUOTE1. No documentation for the individual blocks
already built-in. So how isone to know
what one can do with a give block?
Have you explored the Knowledge Base yet? You can access it at the top of this page or in the program under the HELP menu.
QUOTE2. Incredible waste of resources. I don't
know how much of this is dot-net, and
how much is YOUR fault, but the bottom
line is, that the program will not share
the resources of my one-year-old desktop.
Its not a waste. Blocks can only do what it does by using these resources.
QUOTE3. Will not work properly, UNLESS its online.
I asked about this in Houston, and was
told it WOULD work offline.
You must be online to access the web libraries. If you save things to your hard drive from the web library, the program will work offline.
QUOTE4. Blocks tries to reinvent the ONE THING,
that Microsoft got right in Windows,
its GUI interface.
It does not reinvent. The Blocks technology is unprecendented in software. No program in existence can allow you to manipulate code the way Blocks can.
- Craig
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Registered User
Joined: 10/18/2005
Posts: 49
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I watched the "retracement" video. Figured out how to lay on some Fibonaccio Alfredo. Though I almost missed the bit in the video, where the secret was revealed.
Who would think, that "click on drawing tools" DOES NOT MEAN "click on the menu named 'Drawing Tools'"?
Nor does the fact, that you SAVE Chart Template in the Chart Template menu mean, that you can use that menu to retrieve the template.
The personal indicators, that you mention in the video, don't work unless you either UPDATE the chart online, or figure out, that personal criteria can be calculated with the almost invisible button cleverly named "Change Personal Criteria Settings".
I do appreciate the quick reply though.
Abair
PS: Just as soon as something impresses me, I will post a congratulatory note -- true to Worden Tradition, in a different place by the same name  .
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Worden Trainer
Joined: 10/1/2004
Posts: 18,819
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abair,
Have you explored the other training videos yet? There is an entire forum devoted to teaching you how to use TeleChart.
Here are few you may want to start with:
If you are new to TeleChart READ THIS FIRST!
I wish you luck in your exploration. Let me know if you have any more questions.
- Craig
Here to Help!
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Registered User
Joined: 2/8/2005
Posts: 81
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I am surprised to see the complaint on the stability of TC200X. It never failed on me for years. On the other hand, I would not be surprised to see some complaints on Blocks which is still somewhat new.
Overall I think I like TC200X for its performance. Blocks can be very powerful, especially with Backscanner, but it does ask for too much resources. Also, using two not-so-like systems (PCF vs. Blocks) doubles the efforts.
If Blocks can do everything that TC200X can do, I would not mind to upgrade my computers to use Blocks. If TC200X can do backscanner, I would leave Blocks for now. In the real world, I am ... :)
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