Registered User Joined: 9/2/2009 Posts: 85
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Hey fellow traders, "UPDATE"
I think the chart pattern of Royl, has set up very nicely here for a nice, quick percentage gain up. I recommended it around $3 a week ago( intra-day low of $2.85). My sell target is $5.58 with a slight problem at $4.50 or so. I think $5.58 can happen in ten trading days or so from here...
Happy trading, StarWood IP
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Registered User Joined: 9/2/2009 Posts: 85
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I am surprised that no one here is backing me up on Royl , or is leaving any feedback. This is a real Gem and Gift waiting to happen soon here. I think it is an easy 75% in less than 2 weeks or so...
Thanks, StarWood IP
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Registered User Joined: 6/7/2009 Posts: 142
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I just did a scan of stocks between 2 and 5 with the price just crossing the 50dma and still below the 200dma - HHGP KV.A JADE SRT LACO and LBIX is what I found. KV.a seems to be the obvious choice because of the volume.
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Registered User Joined: 5/1/2011 Posts: 38
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royl is struggling at the 200ma. R3 is 3.77 par seems ok but beware the doji. $5.00 seems a reach.
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Registered User Joined: 9/2/2009 Posts: 85
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Thanks all for your opinion on Royl. I guess no one is a buyer here? I think it will begin to move this week like I predicted Cdti would last week. Sorry, not a triple like Cdti, but a cool 75% or so soon to the mid $5's +.
David, what is R3, and I do not see where Royl is struggling @ its' 200dma?
Thanks for your opinions....
StarWood IP
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Registered User Joined: 9/2/2009 Posts: 85
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Hey Traders,
Tomorrow(Thursday) will mark the 6th(business) trading day since my May 24th(late Tuesday night) post on Royl. This means that it is about to pop here in the next few sessions. I even bought more today with the market down 269 pts. "S.S" Pattern looks super here, and isn't afraid of no doji...
Thanks ,
StarWood IP
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Registered User Joined: 9/2/2009 Posts: 85
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QUOTE (bbruin) I just did a scan of stocks between 2 and 5 with the price just crossing the 50dma and still below the 200dma - HHGP KV.A JADE SRT LACO and LBIX is what I found. KV.a seems to be the obvious choice because of the volume.
Hey bb,
Thanks for responding to my posts. Of the six stocks you mentioned, I only liked one, Kv-a, because it was my pick of course. I said "liked" because I sold it today @ $4.26. I made 79% in a short time from $2.38 to $4.26. The 50 dma, as of today was @ $4.28, so I sold 2 cents below like I usually do. It will eventually go to $5.70ish, but hey, I am not greedy. As for your "scan" picks, I really do not care for them. My "S.S" Pattern always has 200dma< 50dma, ALWAYS, not the other day around. As for Kv-a, if you read all my posts, I mentioned it was not an S.S, but something different. It broke down below the 200dma. I bought it because the pattern remained"in tact", and especially because the underlying indicators remained super strong, like I mentioned on the post the day I bought it @$2.38.
So Cdti and Kv-a have been great winners. IF cdti falls into the mid-$5's again, I might be a buyer again. I use a short to intermediate program that says it is going to at least $19, AND, hold your breathe, eeeventually to 30ish!!!
I still LOVE Royl and believe it is on the brink of popping big towards $5.60ish, very, very soon. I am still holding on to Txcc, which I bought @ 2.95. Bb, here is a new one I am not buying yet , but am starting to watch very closely. Nvgn is currenly @1.08. IF, it slips below $1, say between 85 cents to 99 cents, I will begin to nibble on it, even though I hate buying anything below $1. It is not quite an "S.S' Pattern but is getting close. Ninety cents to $!.50-$1.90, quite possible, but wait till I can put it to some stringent testing when I have time...
Thanks....
StarWood IP
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Registered User Joined: 6/7/2009 Posts: 142
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I am interested in your method - maybe you could tell me what additional parameters I should be adding to the scan. Currently, I have stocks between $2 & $5, the 200dma is BELOW the 50dma and the price has just crossed the 50dma upwards. Running that scan gives me 14 candidates.
ZQK WEN HDY and HNSN have decent volumes while HILL and SCMP are borderline - the rest hardly trade at all. So I assume you must have some volume parameters that you add.
What else should I be looking for?
Thanks, it's always fun to explore new ways of trying to crack the market!
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Registered User Joined: 9/2/2009 Posts: 85
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QUOTE (bbruin) I am interested in your method - maybe you could tell me what additional parameters I should be adding to the scan. Currently, I have stocks between $2 & $5, the 200dma is BELOW the 50dma and the price has just crossed the 50dma upwards. Running that scan gives me 14 candidates.
ZQK WEN HDY and HNSN have decent volumes while HILL and SCMP are borderline - the rest hardly trade at all. So I assume you must have some volume parameters that you add.
What else should I be looking for?
Thanks, it's always fun to explore new ways of trying to crack the market!
Hey bb.
It is late and I am quite tired, but came up with some names for you.
As for your six picks, the only one I seem to like is HNSN.
Here would be my list to you , followed by an explanation:
ROYL,NVGN,EEE,TXCC: you know the deal on these four stocks from my prior posts in ths forum.
BDCO, SYMX:
BDCO- currently $4.99, Buy @ $3.70ish
SYMX- currently $2.32, Buy $1.60ish
LEI, CIMT: Looks like I missed/overlooked these two recently, so too late to buy now! I am mad I missed LEI because was a fairly nice "S.S"
LEI-BUY: $2.40, SELL:$3.60 Hit $3.46 already, now @ $3.12
CIMT: BUY-$2.90, SELL:$4.15ish, currently @ $3.42
Also Look At: BASI,OPXA,ONSM,URZ. I am not recommended these four , but follow them,etc.
Finally, one that is below the 200dma is AERG. IF, I stress IF, it falls from its' current price of 46 cents to 30 cents(?) in a slow decline over the next 5+- weeks or so, it could triple to about 90 cents or so, almost like Cdti tripled, but the pattern is certainly not as good in my opinion.
As for your parameters, yes , volume has to be > 100,000 sh per day.
Thanks,
StarWood IP
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Registered User Joined: 9/2/2009 Posts: 85
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QUOTE (starwoodip) QUOTE (bbruin) I am interested in your method - maybe you could tell me what additional parameters I should be adding to the scan. Currently, I have stocks between $2 & $5, the 200dma is BELOW the 50dma and the price has just crossed the 50dma upwards. Running that scan gives me 14 candidates.
ZQK WEN HDY and HNSN have decent volumes while HILL and SCMP are borderline - the rest hardly trade at all. So I assume you must have some volume parameters that you add.
What else should I be looking for?
Thanks, it's always fun to explore new ways of trying to crack the market!
Hey bb.
It is late and I am quite tired, but came up with some names for you.
As for your six picks, the only one I seem to like is HNSN.
Here would be my list to you , followed by an explanation:
ROYL,NVGN,EEE,TXCC: you know the deal on these four stocks from my prior posts in ths forum.
BDCO, SYMX:
BDCO- currently $4.99, Buy @ $3.70ish
SYMX- currently $2.32, Buy $1.60ish
LEI, CIMT: Looks like I missed/overlooked these two recently, so too late to buy now! I am mad I missed LEI because was a fairly nice "S.S"
LEI-BUY: $2.40, SELL:$3.60 Hit $3.46 already, now @ $3.12
CIMT: BUY-$2.90, SELL:$4.15ish, currently @ $3.42
Also Look At: BASI,OPXA,ONSM,URZ. I am not recommended these four , but follow them,etc.
Finally, one that is below the 200dma is AERG. IF, I stress IF, it falls from its' current price of 46 cents to 30 cents(?) in a slow decline over the next 5+- weeks or so, it could triple to about 90 cents or so, almost like Cdti tripled, but the pattern is certainly not as good in my opinion.
As for your parameters, yes , volume has to be > 100,000 sh per day.
Thanks,
StarWood IP
Sorry....HNSN: currently $2.78, BUY: Low $2's
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Registered User Joined: 6/7/2009 Posts: 142
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Thx Starwood - I will look at these. FYI, LEI and ROYL often trade in tandem.
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Registered User Joined: 6/6/2005 Posts: 1,157
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Hi Starwood,
What's your exit strategy on these? Winning and losing? Royl took a hit Friday. But volume was low. I've found on stocks like ROYL a low volume hit close to -10% can be a good entry. Just wondering if you use a set stop, indicator signal or other before pulling the plug? Might be helpful for other traders who see your picks know how you look at exits as well.
On winning trades do you have a target? Trailing stop? Scale out? Thanks for the info. Congrats on your recent wins.
Thanks!
David John Hall
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Registered User Joined: 6/6/2005 Posts: 1,157
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Hi Starwood,
What's the exit strategy for you here? Do you place a stop on your trades? Nothing wrong with having losing trades, but if we talk methods, it's good to know when you pull out so we can get an idea of how you would trade this.
Thanks!
David John Hall
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Registered User Joined: 1/28/2005 Posts: 6,049
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I could see taking a flyer on this now under 3.15 with a tight stop, intraday lows 2.94/2.90 area.
Not so much a vote on ROYL vs. a market bounce which it will rally in.
I would rather try to get in, if stopped out try to get in again vs. accumulating a position.
(in case we dont bounce)
Thanks
diceman
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Registered User Joined: 2/5/2006 Posts: 1,148
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might be better to hit the casino. at least they'll give you a couple drinks.
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Registered User Joined: 3/8/2011 Posts: 58
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Looks to me like it has a better chance of hitting 2.20 than 4.50.
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Registered User Joined: 1/28/2005 Posts: 6,049
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QUOTE (funnymony) might be better to hit the casino. at least they'll give you a couple drinks.
Yeah, but I’m diceman, I love casinos!
I have to admit, I didn’t know Obama and Bernanke were speaking today.both of them almost took the market down single-handedly, talk about gambling.
Thanks
diceman
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Registered User Joined: 9/2/2009 Posts: 85
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Ok guys,
I get the message and appreciate your comments and insight. Nobody can pick tops or bottoms, but I originally said to buy Royl around the $3 area, and to sell around $5.40 area. That is what my "S'S" pattern says, and I stand by it. Tomorrow, June 8th, marks the tenth business day from my May 24th comment, so it should pop very soon here. One of the beauties of the "S.S' Pattern is that if it stays "intact", it screams to buy more if it slips lower.
Other stocks I am following right now which I also like if they slip a little lower here right now are:
Nvgn, Bdco, Symx, Txcc, and still like Eee
Cdti buy again here between $5- $5.40ish for a nice pop up again
Aerg, a risky longshot to triple, if it slips to 30 cents on or about July 20th or so...
Hey, at least I give lots of specific picks in this open forum, that really few people do here...Lol...
Thanks,
StarWood IP
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Registered User Joined: 6/6/2005 Posts: 1,157
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Hi Starwood,
Thanks for the info. I was asking about an exit strategy. So is the exit strategy 10 business days? Giving specific picks is great, but that's only half of a method. Follow-up is important and it's no good to just follow-up on the winners. It's my experience that methods suceed or fail based on how you handle the losers.
For instance, what happens if you buy ROYL and on day 2 it gaps down -15%? Are you out, do you buy more, do you hold on? You mention that you bought around $3, then you bought more higher than $3, and then we had a slide. This is purely out of interest. We know your target ius 5.40 -- that's the upside, and definitely could happen. I like low priced stocks for the same reason -- they move.
But what's your downside exit strategy? Also, how much of your capital do you alloocate to a single trade? And what's your win%. These numbers all help to give traders a very good idea of what they're going into.
This is all in the interest of education.
Thanks. And by the way, I would rather see ROYL make you money than not. And I would rather see us all learn more than not. Here's to $5.40!
David John Hall
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Registered User Joined: 2/1/2005 Posts: 36
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[QUOTE=davidjohnhall]Hi Starwood,
This is all in the interest of education.
And education can be very expensive. Like blowing out your trading account a few times.
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Registered User Joined: 1/28/2005 Posts: 6,049
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QUOTE (sieandme) [QUOTE=davidjohnhall]Hi Starwood,
This is all in the interest of education.
And education can be very expensive. Like blowing out your trading account a few times.
If buying ROYL blows out your account, you're doing something else wrong.
Thanks
diceman
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Registered User Joined: 6/6/2005 Posts: 1,157
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LOL Diceman, very true!
I would say never put more than 10% of equity into any low priced stock and some say much less. That way if ROYL blows up your account doesn't go down with it.
One of the tests I did with "the challenge" was to see if I could feel comfortable trading low priced stocks with as much as 25% of the account, then as much as 50%. The resulting equity swings were tough to ride out.
David John Hall
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Registered User Joined: 5/1/2011 Posts: 38
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well hello:
Not on the royl wagon yet, though i like the sub sector. still see royl still struggling at the 200ma with r 3 at 3.33. both of these resistance areas stopping royl cold. would like to see a break through. in the same sub sector i like pq and axas for a 2 - 5% gain tomorrow (6/15).
good luck
dm
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Registered User Joined: 6/23/2008 Posts: 38
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Registered User Joined: 6/23/2008 Posts: 38
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fyi vector vest has it as a sell and it has the worst rt I have ever seen!
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Registered User Joined: 2/1/2005 Posts: 36
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QUOTE (diceman) [QUOTE=sieandme][QUOTE=davidjohnhall]Hi Starwood,
This is all in the interest of education.
If buying ROYL blows out your account, you're doing something else wrong.
Not. But yes, I've blown out my trading account a few times during learning learning curve and so my "Education" has been rather expensive.
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Registered User Joined: 6/6/2005 Posts: 1,157
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Hi sieandme,
Been there myself. Education costs money one way or another. But those are valuable lessons and well worth it if you ask me.
I'd just like to hear what Starwood's original exit strategy was/is. That way we can better know how he's approaching his strategy. Talking about winners all day long or which positions gained is fine but you need to know how to manage the trades that don't work out.
David John Hall
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Registered User Joined: 2/1/2005 Posts: 36
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QUOTE (davidjohnhall) Hi sieandme,
Been there myself. Education costs money one way or another. But those are valuable lessons and well worth it if you ask me.
I'd just like to hear what Starwood's original exit strategy was/is. That way we can better know how he's approaching his strategy. Talking about winners all day long or which positions gained is fine but you need to know how to manage the trades that don't work out.
David John Hall
And thats the Holy Grail Don has been speaking to for so many years. I hope he"s well.
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Registered User Joined: 9/2/2009 Posts: 85
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QUOTE (davidmorales) well hello:
Not on the royl wagon yet, though i like the sub sector. still see royl still struggling at the 200ma with r 3 at 3.33. both of these resistance areas stopping royl cold. would like to see a break through. in the same sub sector i like pq and axas for a 2 - 5% gain tomorrow (6/15).
good luck
dm Hey David,
I hope you jump on the Royl bandwagon soon, or you will miss an incredible move to the upside. Royl has strong underlying indicators , while declining slowly on very light volume. Your two stocks Pq, and Axas , have deteriorating indicators, just check out on-balance volume for starters...
Thanks!
Starwood IP
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Registered User Joined: 9/2/2009 Posts: 85
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QUOTE (sieandme) QUOTE (davidjohnhall) Hi sieandme,
Been there myself. Education costs money one way or another. But those are valuable lessons and well worth it if you ask me.
I'd just like to hear what Starwood's original exit strategy was/is. That way we can better know how he's approaching his strategy. Talking about winners all day long or which positions gained is fine but you need to know how to manage the trades that don't work out.
David John Hall
And thats the Holy Grail Don has been speaking to for so many years. I hope he"s well.
Hey guys, and Happy Father's Day!
Ok, I admit that Royl is down about 12.6% from where I recommended it @ $3.01. It went down to $2.85(intra-day), then went as high as $3.68(intra-day) or over 22% from the $3 mark, before sliding down to its' current price of $2.63.
With my "S.S" Pattern , I always have a buy area and a sell area in mind. For example, with Royl it was around $3 to Buy, and around $5.40 to sell. Now every stock has an additional downside risk. With Royl I saw $2.55ish and even Funnymonny's low of $2.20. So I do not per say have an exit strategy or do I panic. For me it is just a temporary paper loss, and soon I will be making over 60% on my original investment.
Do I sell when I am losing 8% on my money like William O'Neil from IBD says to do? Well , that happens with every stock I folow, so I guess I would have to sell them the next day...Lol.. I pick stocks on the way down, not on the way up like Mr. O'Neil. I trust my pattern and the underlying indicators which I use.
Harry Boxer, who uses Telechart by the way, loves to pick stocks with a high and increasing OBV, while volume is low. Last time I checked, BOTH Royl, and Nvgn had both these features...
Thanks,
StarWood IP
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Registered User Joined: 5/1/2011 Posts: 38
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happy padre day to you to starwood! took 1.81% gain on pq that morming in by 9:55 out by 12:30. axas definitley a no go. was hoping to see royl on my weekly short list tonight, but not yet. btw: i like obv.
later
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Registered User Joined: 6/7/2009 Posts: 142
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Starwood .. how long will you hold a stock before you declare it dead money?
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Registered User Joined: 6/6/2005 Posts: 1,157
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Hi bbruin,
That's a great question and more along the lines of what I was looking for starwood to answer. When you trade low priced stocks like I do you know that no matter how much you like your pattern it doesn't always work. You can't just get into a stock an assume it's going to give you the return you want. With low priced stocks there's always the possibility that it's not going to turn around. I trade a variety of systems and some have stop losses as wide as 50% (which means the position size is very small) but there comes a time when you declare a trade a wash and you move on.
David John Hall
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Registered User Joined: 9/2/2009 Posts: 85
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QUOTE (davidjohnhall) Hi bbruin,
That's a great question and more along the lines of what I was looking for starwood to answer. When you trade low priced stocks like I do you know that no matter how much you like your pattern it doesn't always work. You can't just get into a stock an assume it's going to give you the return you want. With low priced stocks there's always the possibility that it's not going to turn around. I trade a variety of systems and some have stop losses as wide as 50% (which means the position size is very small) but there comes a time when you declare a trade a wash and you move on.
David John Hall
Hey bb and David,
I respect both of you highly and I am sure you know more about, and are better "traders" per say than I am. If I ever get out of a stock, it depends on where the strongest lateral support level is. I cannot abandon ship on Royl for the following reason. Just look at the solid lateral support channel it has from Feb. 2010 to March 2011 before its' huge pop up. We have solid support between $1.95 and $2.55 or so. I knew this before I bought it. It has come down to $2.55, slowly and with light volume, and I believe it approaching its' apex in about a week. Plus, look at key indicators like obv and money flows. Put all these together, and you would be an idiot to sell here. Believe me, the smart money is ready to jump in big on Royl. You do not need to know anything about the "S.S' pattern, or be a rocket scientist here. Royl will explode big here soon, but most will miss this big move because it will happen quickly.
By old standards, my Royl is only down 7/16ths... to me this is trivial... It will have a big day soon and gain 75 cents- $1... then an even bigger move... I am very confident you can soon double your money on it, and then some...
Happy Trading,
StarWood IP
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Registered User Joined: 6/6/2005 Posts: 1,157
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Awesome StarWood,
I'm sure it will work out for you. I trade my own variations. And have rocked NYNY recently in the same way. But I know where my exit door is on all trades. I simply cannot ever think my trades are guaranteed to move. I've been locked in like that before and it causes empty accounts (for me). So when my trades don't move I call it a day and look to put my money to work elsewhere. But that's my way. I respect your method and thank you for giving more info.
Here's to you getting your double on ROYL. I'll keep watching -- there's always something to learn.
David John Hall
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Registered User Joined: 5/11/2009 Posts: 120
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David John Hall,
Not everyone has your knowledge and trading skills but it should be evident by now that StarWood does not have a complete trading plan. He has yet to realize the importance of having an exit plan. He could be very good at entries but that is not enough to protect yourself from the stocks that go bad. Enron comes to mind.
No disrespect StarWood, but a good book on money management will help your trading immensely.
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Registered User Joined: 6/7/2009 Posts: 142
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HI Starwood .. I get the feeling you think you are at an inquisition lol - I have no idea if I am a better trader than you. My question about dead money was sincere - at some point, we all have to realise that a trade is not working and and exit - hopefully with a manageable risk amount.
On anothet topic, I am very interested in developing a scan for BOP divergence - dug one up from the archives and ran it last night (June 20) - the result that popped to the top of the list in my mind was MHR - and it had a fantastic day today (June 21). So are any of you using a divergence PCF with any success?
This is the PCF I used:
(19 * (C - C19) + 17 * (C1 - C18) + 15 * (C2 - C17) + 13 * (C3 - C16) + 11 * (C4 - C15) + 9 * (C5 - C14) + 7 * (C6 - C13) + 5 * (C7 - C12) + 3 * (C8 - C11) + C9 > C10 AND C > C19 AND 19 * (BOP - BOP1.19) + 17 * (BOP1.1 - BOP1.18) + 15 * (BOP1.2 - BOP1.17) + 13 * (BOP1.3 - BOP1.16) + 11 * (BOP1.4 - BOP1.15) + 9 * (BOP1.5 - BOP1.14) + 7 * (BOP1.6 - BOP1.13) + 5 * (BOP1.7 - BOP1.12) + 3 * (BOP1.8 - BOP1.11) + BOP1.9 < BOP1.10 AND BOP < BOP1.19 AND BOP < (-30)) OR (19 * (C - C19) + 17 * (C1 - C18) + 15 * (C2 - C17) + 13 * (C3 - C16) + 11 * (C4 - C15) + 9 * (C5 - C14) + 7 * (C6 - C13) + 5 * (C7 - C12) + 3 * (C8 - C11) + C9 < C10 AND C < C19 AND 19 * (BOP - BOP1.19) + 17 * (BOP1.1 - BOP1.18) + 15 * (BOP1.2 - BOP1.17) + 13 * (BOP1.3 - BOP1.16) + 11 * (BOP1.4 - BOP1.15) + 9 * (BOP1.5 - BOP1.14) + 7 * (BOP1.6 - BOP1.13) + 5 * (BOP1.7 - BOP1.12) + 3 * (BOP1.8 - BOP1.11) + BOP1.9 > BOP1.10 AND BOP > BOP1.19 AND BOP > 30)
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Registered User Joined: 5/1/2011 Posts: 38
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hey guys i ve been a little busy. i wanted to thank starwood, royl crossed my screen wednsday around 10:am in at $2.77 out at $3.05 10.1% . i was all smiles thought it might be your big move starwood but it pulled back and with that in my pocket im out on negative ticks. thought you might like to know!
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Registered User Joined: 9/2/2009 Posts: 85
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QUOTE (starwoodip) QUOTE (bbruin) I am interested in your method - maybe you could tell me what additional parameters I should be adding to the scan. Currently, I have stocks between $2 & $5, the 200dma is BELOW the 50dma and the price has just crossed the 50dma upwards. Running that scan gives me 14 candidates.
ZQK WEN HDY and HNSN have decent volumes while HILL and SCMP are borderline - the rest hardly trade at all. So I assume you must have some volume parameters that you add.
What else should I be looking for?
Thanks, it's always fun to explore new ways of trying to crack the market!
Hey bb.
It is late and I am quite tired, but came up with some names for you.
As for your six picks, the only one I seem to like is HNSN.
Here would be my list to you , followed by an explanation:
ROYL,NVGN,EEE,TXCC: you know the deal on these four stocks from my prior posts in ths forum.
BDCO, SYMX:
BDCO- currently $4.99, Buy @ $3.70ish
SYMX- currently $2.32, Buy $1.60ish
LEI, CIMT: Looks like I missed/overlooked these two recently, so too late to buy now! I am mad I missed LEI because was a fairly nice "S.S"
LEI-BUY: $2.40, SELL:$3.60 Hit $3.46 already, now @ $3.12
CIMT: BUY-$2.90, SELL:$4.15ish, currently @ $3.42
Also Look At: BASI,OPXA,ONSM,URZ. I am not recommended these four , but follow them,etc.
Finally, one that is below the 200dma is AERG. IF, I stress IF, it falls from its' current price of 46 cents to 30 cents(?) in a slow decline over the next 5+- weeks or so, it could triple to about 90 cents or so, almost like Cdti tripled, but the pattern is certainly not as good in my opinion.
As for your parameters, yes , volume has to be > 100,000 sh per day.
Thanks,
StarWood IP
Aerg popped up over 25% today.
It had a low of 27/28 cents close to my prediction of 30 cents. Could double or triple like I originally stated. I still like Nvgn, Royl, and Opxa here...
Thanks,
StarWood IP
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Registered User Joined: 5/1/2011 Posts: 38
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starwood:
just got a weekly buy signal on ROYL. So im in on monday open for at least a week unless stopped out.
thought you might like to know
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