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pcarma
Posted : Tuesday, April 8, 2008 5:23:57 PM
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I use Bollinger bands to find break out ideas. when the bands get "narrow", a breakout is about to occur, as I understand them. 

I would like to build a EasyScan to find for stocks that have narrow Bollinger bands that actually "fit" inside the Keltner Channel of the same length...this is way above my knowledge to write it so I look to the guru's of TC for help! 
Is there a way to build a formula for this odd request? 

All help is much appreciated! 

PC
diceman
Posted : Tuesday, April 8, 2008 9:10:00 PM
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pcarma
Posted : Wednesday, April 9, 2008 11:53:32 AM
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diceman - thanks for the help, but i am still haveing trouble creating the an easyscan  to match my  tradestation one. I read the post..its a a little confusing to follow - it seemed that there were a few questions about indicator's and not scans...unless I miss read them

what would be the formula for an Easyscan that shows the BB inside the Keltner?

Thanks again
Bruce_L
Posted : Wednesday, April 9, 2008 12:10:41 PM


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pcarma,
That depends entirely on your Bollinger Band and Keltner Channel settings (and this is further complicated by the fact that there seem to be several different ways to calculate Keltner Channels). Without knowing exactly what your settings are (as well as the type of Keltner Channels used) it is impossible to create a Personal Criteria Formula that could be used as an EasyScan Condition to test for what you want (which is why the referenced topic seems so complicated).

-Bruce
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pcarma
Posted : Friday, April 18, 2008 2:13:45 PM
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Bruce - anyway to draw this request from scratch? It is definitly the TTM squeeze strategy that Diceman referred me to but the formula's are not able to be calulated...any help would be appreciated.
PC
Bruce_L
Posted : Friday, April 18, 2008 3:35:06 PM


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pcarma,
Assuming you want the same settings as were mentioned by Diceman:

- 20-Period Bollinger Bands +/- 2 * SD (and these are actually narrower than TeleChart's BBs by a factor of (Period-1)/Period.
- 20-Period Keltner Channels +/- 1.5 * Simple Moving Average of True Range.
- Bollinger Band and Keltner Channel Centerline is the same (a 20-Period Simple Moving Average of the Close).
The following would return True when the Bollinger Bands are inside the Keltner Channel:

SQR(ABS(C ^ 2 + C1 ^ 2 + C2 ^ 2 + C3 ^ 2 + C4 ^ 2 + C5 ^ 2 + C6 ^ 2 + C7 ^ 2 + C8 ^ 2 + C9 ^ 2 + C10 ^ 2 + C11 ^ 2 + C12 ^ 2 + C13 ^ 2 + C14 ^ 2 + C15 ^ 2 + C16 ^ 2 + C17 ^ 2 + C18 ^ 2 + C19 ^ 2 - 20 * AVGC20 ^ 2) / 20) * 4 / 3 / ((AVGH20 - AVGL20) / 2 + (ABS(H - C1) + ABS(L - C1) + ABS(H1 - C2) + ABS(L1 - C2) + ABS(H2 - C3) + ABS(L2 - C3) + ABS(H3 - C4) + ABS(L3 - C4) + ABS(H4 - C5) + ABS(L4 - C5) + ABS(H5 - C6) + ABS(L5 - C6) + ABS(H6 - C7) + ABS(L6 - C7) + ABS(H7 - C8) + ABS(L7 - C8) + ABS(H8 - C9) + ABS(L8 - C9) + ABS(H9 - C10) + ABS(L9 - C10) + ABS(H10 - C11) + ABS(L10 - C11) + ABS(H11 - C12) + ABS(L11 - C12) + ABS(H12 - C13) + ABS(L12 - C13) + ABS(H13 - C14) + ABS(L13 - C14) + ABS(H14 - C15) + ABS(L14 - C15) + ABS(H15 - C16) + ABS(L15 - C16) + ABS(H16 - C17) + ABS(L16 - C17) + ABS(H17 - C18) + ABS(L17 - C18) + ABS(H18 - C19) + ABS(L18 - C19) + ABS(H19 - C20) + ABS(L19 - C20)) / 40 + .000001) < 1

-Bruce
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pcarma
Posted : Friday, May 30, 2008 9:29:52 AM
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Bruce - is there a way to turn this into an indicator to view on every chart I see?
Bruce_L
Posted : Friday, May 30, 2008 10:04:25 AM


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pcarma,
Since it is a Boolean formula, you can Plot it using a Custom Percent True Indicator.

Visually Backtesting Specific Symbols

-Bruce
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pcarma
Posted : Friday, May 30, 2008 1:27:42 PM
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ok...that works well...thanks!
Bruce_L
Posted : Friday, May 30, 2008 1:30:29 PM


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pcarma,
You're welcome. Our pleasure.

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